Legislature(2005 - 2006)SENATE FINANCE 532

05/08/2006 01:00 PM Senate FINANCE


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01:31:55 PM Start
01:32:23 PM HB109
01:56:31 PM HB190
02:10:15 PM Rfp 432 Executive Session
02:27:11 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
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+ HB 109 SCREENING NEWBORN FOR HEARING/AUDIOLOGIST TELECONFERENCED
Moved SCS CSHB 109(FIN) Out of Committee
Testimony by Invitation Only
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
= HB 190 REQUIRED ID FOR PURCHASING ALCOHOL
Moved SCS CSHB 190(FIN) Out of Committee
                                                                                                                                
     CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 109(FIN)                                                                                             
     "An Act relating to establishing  a screening, tracking, and                                                               
     intervention  program  related  to the  hearing  ability  of                                                               
     newborns and  infants; providing  an exemption  to licensure                                                               
     as  an audiologist  for certain  persons performing  hearing                                                               
     screening; relating  to insurance  coverage for  newborn and                                                               
     infant  hearing screening;  and providing  for an  effective                                                               
     date."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This was the first hearing for this bill in the Senate Finance                                                                  
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:32:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JANE PIERSON, Staff to Representative Jay Ramras, the bill's                                                                    
sponsor, read the sponsor statement as follows.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Each year  in Alaska  approximately 10,000 babies  are born.                                                               
     30  or 40  of these  children will  be born  with congenital                                                               
     hearing  defects. Hearing  loss is  more prevalent  than any                                                               
     other birth defect. Studies have  shown that children with a                                                               
     hearing impairment  not detected  at birth, will  likely not                                                               
     have their impairment  detected until two to  three years of                                                               
     age.  Unfortunately, studies  have also  show that  the most                                                               
     critical time  for speech and cognitive  development is from                                                               
     birth to three years of age.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     HB 109 will require infants  to be screened for hearing loss                                                               
     before leaving  the hospital, or  within thirty-one  days of                                                               
     being born, if  not born in a hospital. HB  109 will further                                                               
     provide  diagnostic  intervention.  A  child  who  fails  an                                                               
     initial  hearing   screening  will   be  referred   for  re-                                                               
     screening. Once  a child has  been diagnosed with  a hearing                                                               
     impairment, parents  will be provided  by the  Department of                                                               
     Health and  Social Services with written  information on the                                                               
     availability  of   services  through   community  resources,                                                               
     government agencies, parent  support organization affiliated                                                               
     with  deafness,  counseling  and educational  services,  and                                                               
     programs  offered  through  the  Department  of  Health  and                                                               
     Social Services  and the Department  of Education  and Early                                                               
     Development.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Ultimately, this  bill will save  the state of  Alaska money                                                               
     due to the fact that when  infants are not identified with a                                                               
     hearing impairment  and aided early, the  special educations                                                               
     costs for a child with a  hearing loss may cost the state an                                                               
     additional $420,000.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     When hearing impaired children reach  school age they become                                                               
     the  fiscal   responsibility  of  their   respective  school                                                               
     districts.  The cost  of educating  a special  needs student                                                               
     can range  up to  $12,000 per year  versus the  Base Student                                                               
     Allocation amount  of $4,919 (proposed  FY 06)  per student.                                                               
     Sooner  or  later  children  identified  with  hearing  loss                                                               
     become   the  financial   responsibility   of  the   state's                                                               
     education system.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pierson encouraged the passage of the bill.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:34:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson asked whether a penalty would be imposed were the                                                                 
screening not conducted.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pierson responded that hospitals would be required to                                                                       
conduct the screening unless the parents opted out of it. No                                                                    
penalty would be levied against a doctor.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson understood therefore that this would be a                                                                         
voluntary program.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pierson affirmed.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:35:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson, a medical doctor, asked whether this bill could                                                                  
assist children who might suffer hearing impairment after being                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
affects the inner ear. In his  experience, this was a more common                                                               
issue than newborn hearing impairment.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Pierson deferred  to  the Department  of  Health and  Social                                                               
Services.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green understood  the bill would limit  the screening to                                                               
newborns.  In  her  opinion,  the bill  would  create  "too  much                                                               
bureaucracy in the Department of Health and Social Services".                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green noted that, due  to time constraints, testimony on                                                               
this bill was by invitation only.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:36:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.  RICHARD  MANDSAGER,  Director, Division  of  Public  Health,                                                               
Department  of   Health  and   Social  Services,   testified  via                                                               
teleconference from Nome in support  of the bill. It would assist                                                               
in providing Alaska's children a brighter future.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Mandsager informed  the Committee the bill  would be specific                                                               
to  congenital  hearing  screening   for  newborns,  rather  than                                                               
screening  for  acquired hearing  loss  later  in life.  However,                                                               
follow-up efforts  would be conducted on  high-risk infants, such                                                               
as those receiving critical care nursery treatment.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Mandsager stated that the  increased bureaucracy issue raised                                                               
by Co-Chair  Green has been  a frequent topic of  discussion. The                                                               
discussion  has  included such  things  as  whether the  benefits                                                               
provided by the  program would warrant the costs  of the program.                                                               
In his opinion,  the bill would ensure  newborn hearing screening                                                               
and would  allow the Department  to connect parents  with newborn                                                               
hearing services within  the first six months of  a child's life.                                                               
Prior to newborn hearing screening  being conducted in the State,                                                               
the  average  age of  a  congenital  hearing loss  diagnosis  was                                                               
between the  ages of two and  three. Since 80 percent  of infants                                                               
in  the  State undergo  voluntary  screening  today, the  age  of                                                               
diagnosis has  decreased to less  than one  year. The goal  is to                                                               
connect parents with hearing loss  services before their child is                                                               
six  months  old,  as  the   earlier  parents  and  kids  receive                                                               
services, the better for the child's educational and life needs.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Dr.  Mandsager  concluded  that  this  bill  would  present  "the                                                               
appropriate  balance  between  the  cost  and  the  services  and                                                               
helping parents  make the choices  that are appropriate  for them                                                               
as  to what  communication technology  they choose  for them  and                                                               
their family".                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:38:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  communicated  that   his  remarks  were  made  in                                                               
consideration  of  the fact  that  a  school's special  education                                                               
expense for a child not diagnosed  with hearing loss as an infant                                                               
could amount to  approximately $420,000. He asked  the percent of                                                               
children  diagnosed  with  congenital hearing  loss  compared  to                                                               
those with acquired hearing loss.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:38:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Mandsager replied  that children with mild  hearing loss tend                                                               
to suffer  acquired hearing  loss due to  such things  as chronic                                                               
                                                                                                                                
otitismedia.  The majority  of profound hearing  loss in children                                                               
would  typically  be  the result  of  congenital  hearing  issues                                                               
before birth.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  recalled a discussion  in which Dr.  Mandsager had                                                               
communicated  that newborns  were  currently  being screened  for                                                               
approximately 70 different kinds of conditions.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Dr.  Mandsager stated  that, in  the past  two years,  screenings                                                               
conducted  on infants  increased from  nine to  approximately 40.                                                               
Additional screenings  would be  expected in  the years  ahead as                                                               
technology advances.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  asked how much  the hearing screen would  cost per                                                               
child.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:40:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Mandsager expected  the cost to be $30 to  $40 per child were                                                               
the screening  conducted during  the first  month of  the child's                                                               
life.  The  "diagnostic  confirmatory   testing"  that  would  be                                                               
conducted on  infants who failed  the initial screening  would be                                                               
"substantially more".                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson  asked the  cost  of  the equipment  and  training                                                               
required for the initial screening.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Dr.  Mandsager   understood  the  "typical   screening  machines"                                                               
utilized  by  hospitals  and public  health  centers  range  from                                                               
$1,500 to  $2,000. Approximately two  hours of training  time was                                                               
required when  the equipment was  installed at the  Alaska Native                                                               
Medical  Center.  Since  then,   experienced  staff  nurses  have                                                               
trained others on a one on one basis.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:41:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken first  heard this  bill in  March in  the Senate                                                               
Health,  Education, &  Social Services  Committee (Senate  HESS).                                                               
While he  was not  opposed to  newborn screening,  the additional                                                               
bureaucracy this bill  would create troubled him.  It might "feel                                                               
good" to  pass such legislation,  but the question is  whether it                                                               
was really necessary.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:41:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  referred members to a  handout titled "Locations                                                               
of  Newborn Hearing  Screening Hospitals,  2003 births"  [copy on                                                               
file]  which depicted  the location  of each  hospital or  clinic                                                               
offering  newborn  screening  in  the State.  The  screening  was                                                               
widely  available.  Thus, his  question  during  the Senate  HESS                                                               
hearing was "then  … what newborns are we not  capturing?" as the                                                               
hospital/clinic screening, complemented by  the screening of home                                                               
birth infants by  midwifes, left few if any children  born in the                                                               
State not being tested.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:43:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  pursued this  issue  and  on  May 5,  2006,  he                                                               
received  a  letter from  the  Department  of Health  and  Social                                                               
Services  [copy  not  provided], which  presented  "averages  and                                                               
statistics that  aren't particularly relevant to  Alaska itself".                                                               
The data mirrored information [copy  not provided] he received in                                                               
March from  Debbie Golden, Director  of Program Services  for the                                                               
Alaska  Chapter  of  March  of  Dimes.  Therefore  he  questioned                                                               
whether "the  Department has done  their homework as to  where we                                                               
think  these children  are slipping  through  the cracks."  Thus,                                                               
since newborn  hearing screening  is already being  conducted, he                                                               
could  not  support  implementing   a  law  that  would  increase                                                               
bureaucracy.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:44:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  also shared concern about  the bill; specifically                                                               
the mandatory insurance coverage  requirement included in Sec. 5,                                                               
page  3  lines 9  through  24.  The insurance  requirement  would                                                               
negatively affect those  who participate in small  group plans or                                                               
who  purchase individual  insurance coverage.  Self-covered plans                                                               
would  be  exempt   from  the  requirement.  She   would  not  be                                                               
supporting  this  bill  were  it advanced  to  the  Senate  floor                                                               
because  the  State  would  be required  to  participate  in  any                                                               
mandate adopted by the Legislature.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green stated her biggest  concern is the bureaucracy the                                                               
bill  would  create  in  the  Department  of  Health  and  Social                                                               
Services, specifically as the result  of reporting, tracking, and                                                               
correspondence.  While the  Department's $39,400  fiscal note  is                                                               
not substantial,  she viewed  such activity  as being  outside of                                                               
the Department's role.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:46:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman suggested more work be conducted on the bill.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green nodded in agreement.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green  noted a  tremendous  amount  of people  were  in                                                               
support of the bill. She  declared that she was "not insensitive"                                                               
to  the issue  as her  father  had hearing  loss and  one of  her                                                               
grandchildren had  congenital hearing problems.  Nonetheless, she                                                               
viewed the proposed procedure as "cumbersome".                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson asked the bill's  sponsor to identify "the problem"                                                               
the  bill would  be "curing"  since the  majority of  infants are                                                               
currently screened.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:47:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson also  questioned  what information  would be  lost                                                               
were the tracking proposed in this bill not in place.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Pierson communicated  that approximately  80 percent  of the                                                               
infants born  in the State  are receiving hearing  screening. One                                                               
of  the  issues the  bill  would  address  is the  follow-up  re-                                                               
screening  for  a child  identified  with  a hearing  impairment.                                                               
Oftentimes, parents are unsure of where  to go or what to do once                                                               
their child  has been initially  identified. The cards  the State                                                               
sends to such parents urging  them to get their child re-screened                                                               
has prompted many parents to pursue further treatment.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  asked what follow-up  contact is  currently being                                                               
conducted.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pierson  communicated that the Department  currently receives                                                               
federal  grant money,  which is  used to  provide information  to                                                               
parents following the initial screening.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:49:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JAY  RAMRAS,  the  bill's  sponsor,  thanked  the                                                               
Committee  for hearing  the  bill. School  is  "difficult" for  a                                                               
child  who   suffers  from  a  disability.   Identifying  hearing                                                               
impairments in  newborns would allow  them "to  pursue treatment"                                                               
in  some manner.  The incorporation  of this  screening into  the                                                               
"birthing package"  should be the  standard rather than  being an                                                               
extra.  It  would  result in  healthier  children.  Hearing  loss                                                               
identified at birth  would lessen "the burden" on  the State's K-                                                               
12 education  process. It would  be "good public policy"  and the                                                               
program  would  "pay   for  itself  many  times   over"  in  both                                                               
intangible and monetary ways.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:51:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde asked whether the  bill would allow "those who have                                                               
the means  to pay  for the  initial screening"  to do  so, rather                                                               
than the program expense being borne by the State.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Pierson clarified  that the  initial  hearing screening  was                                                               
already included in the cost of the birthing package.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  ascertained therefore that the  additional expense                                                               
would result from the follow up screening.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  understood the follow-up screening  expense would                                                               
be subject  to the  insurance mandate  specified in  Sec. 5(b)(2)                                                               
page 3 lines 19 through 21.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:52:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson explained  that,  absent  insurance coverage,  the                                                               
parents  of any  child  identified during  the initial  screening                                                               
with a  potential hearing problem,  would be responsible  for the                                                               
expense of the follow-up care.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  understood that most insurance  plans would cover                                                               
the  treatment. She  characterized "the  idea that  we mandate  a                                                               
product that's to be sold to a customer" as bad public policy.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:53:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  moved  to  adopt  Version  24-LS0450\I  as  the                                                               
working document.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green identified  the effective date of  January 1, 2008                                                               
as the primary difference between  CS FOR HB 109(FIN) and Version                                                               
"I".                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  agreed  with  Senator  Stedman  that  the  bill                                                               
required more  work; however, he was  in a quandary as  to how to                                                               
improve it. Neither  the Department nor the  bill's sponsor "have                                                               
made a case that it's needed".  Thus, no benefit would be derived                                                               
from keeping the bill in Committee.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde  moved to  report  the  bill from  Committee  with                                                               
individual recommendations and accompanying fiscal notes.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
There being  no objection, SCS  CS HB 109(FIN) was  REPORTED from                                                               
Committee with three  previous fiscal notes: zero  fiscal note #2                                                               
dated April 11,  2005 from the Department  of Commerce, Community                                                               
and Economic  Development, zero  fiscal note  #3 dated  April 12,                                                               
2005  from Department  of Education  and  Early Development,  and                                                               
$39,400 fiscal  note #5 dated  March 7, 2006 from  the Department                                                               
of Health and Social Services.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:55:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                

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